Points the Parallel Falchion upward and then poses, saying ", Swings the Parallel Falchion, then performs the same pose from her official artwork, saying "The future is not written!" Lucina is a clone of Marth: her moveset and animations are primarily based off of his, while their attributes are identical. License. The move has an initial "quake" hitbox that launches opponents into the Parallel Falchion's blade hitbox. ssb4 This is the latest and most widely-accepted smash tier list for Super Smash Bros. 4 from Nintendo Wii U, produced by the Smash Back Room and last updated on December 11th, 2017. While Lucina does possess some advantages that allow her to fare better in certain matchups compared to Marth, such as Pikachu and Captain Falcon, she still lacks the main advantages that Marth's tipper provides. Like Marth's version, the first hit stalls Lucina while in midair, which can aid her recovery. go premium to hide all advertisements and this notice. Lucina's special moveset also possesses immense utility, and in two cases, more than that of Marth. The Super Smash Bros. series Lucina amiibo was released on May 29, 2015, as part of Wave 4. Lucina is also slightly shorter than Marth, which makes both her hurtbox and range marginally shorter than his. Rotates her body to perform a lunging downward slash. Lucina and Robin's newcomer artwork from Super Smash Bros for 3DS and Wii U. Very similar to her forward aerial, although it has slightly more damage and knockback. 7. It has overall greater KO potential than Marth's thanks to the Parallel Falchion having a higher base damage output than Falchion. Lucina also has useful combo starters (neutral attack's first hit; neutral aerial's first hit; and Dancing Blade) and respectably strong KOing options (forward/up smashes and back aerial). That's my experience anyways, since I played as Roy in Melee and that's kind of how I made my strategy with Lucina. Dashes behind the opponent and slashes them at a blinding speed. Each swing does considerably more damage and knockback, having noticeable KO potential (especially the final swing). 0:00. 8 comments. Her main motivations come from her love for her parents, especially Chrom. Two alternating upward slashes. Lucina also has her own KO set-ups different from those of Marth via the first hit of neutral attack, while sharing some of them with him, and those she shares being arguably easier to perform because of the Parallel Falchion's consistent hitboxes; the most prominent example is the KO combo consisting of her neutral attack's first hit into forward smash, which is overall more effective when compared to Marth's, thanks to her balanced hitstun and knockback. 0:00. Thanks for taking the time to write it! Permits . Hot New Top Rising. However, Lucina also shares Marth's flaws. From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. wiki, This article is about Lucina's appearance in, Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light, her pose in official art of her disguised as Marth. Despite her flaws, Lucina's actual level of viability is debatable: although her playerbase is fairly small, she receives strong results from the players who do use her, with the most notable examples being ZeRo's numerous tournament victories upon adopting her as a secondary in 2017. Grants good vertical distance but is rather lacking in horizontal distance. Like Marth, Lucina's overall mobility is above-average and the majority of her moveset has minimal start-up lag. Marth is a veteran fighter in Super Smash Bros. Jigglypuff - 7.0 Worst Match. Use CTRL + F to find their section simply by typing in their character names in full caps (and make, I refer to "Battlefield" strategies as some maps have a similar make up and. Palutena's Guidance Conversation (Wii U) ----------, Weight Ranking ---------------------------------, Middle Swings (Red) : E+ (Up) - E+ (Up-Forward) - D+ (Forward) - B+ (Forward), Upward Swings (Blue) : -- - E+ (Up) F+ (Up-Forward) - B+ (Up), Downward Swings (Green): -- - -- - D+ (Forward) - B+ (Forward), Middle Swings (Red) : C+ (Forward) - C+ (Forward) - A+ (Up-Forward) - A+ (Up-Forward), Upward Swings (Blue) : -- - C+ (Up-Forward) - A+ (Up) A+ (Up), Downward Swings (Green): -- - -- - A+ (Forward) - C+ (Forward). Compared to Marth, Lucina's KO potential is noticeably more consistent at high percentages; on a related note, she also has guaranteed horizontal KO set-ups unique to her. Dolphin Slash is her only reliable recovery option, and despite being hard for edgeguarders to outcome thanks to its speed and power, it has a linear path with fixed distance, making it predictable regardless. Her attacks have short hitbox durations, some of which also have noticeable ending lag, which can make her susceptible to punishment if she does not space efficiently. Lucina's Parallel Falchion grants her relatively long disjointed range, yet differs from her ancestor's Falchion by lacking a tipper. Additionally, the swing starts from below instead of above, which can make it catch grounded enemies more easily. She is Marth 's Echo Fighter, meaning that her moveset is a modified version of … A crouching outward slash in front of herself and then behind herself. Ultimate, but she's still considered viable, by all accounts. Report. Has the interesting property of turning Lucina around, changing her facing direction. SSBU +18 ↺5 Super Smash Bros. An overhead arcing slash. It is also one of the few attacks in Lucina's moveset that is comparatively more reliable than Marth's because of the positioning needed to land a sweetspot in his case. : ). I'm sure this guide will help. Todos. Shield Breaker can break shields thanks to its high shield damage, even when uncharged, and it is useful for punishing rolls. Extremely wide arc and decent damage. Due to its high knockback scaling, however, it quickly loses combo potential at medium percentages. Lucina is Marths clone. Up Smash: 20.8 % (28.9 %) Lucina thrusts her sword towards the sky! B Combo = 3, 3, 4 (5 normal finisher, 4-12 down finisher, 6 up finisher) 16.2-22.2 Conclusion: Marth actually does more damage than Lucina in most cases. A Mod for Super Smash Bros. (Wii U) Super Smash Bros. (Wii U) / Game files / Moveset Edit / Lucina. Performs an outward slash while climbing up. Marth and Lucina are two different characters but they both share the same moves since they are from the same world. Its immense damage output and knockback make it a, Lucina's overall damage output is close to the weighted average of each of the hitboxes of. Lucina is an all-new Echo Fighter for Marth. It deals the most damage during its first few frames and is an excellent, 7% (clean), 12% (late blade), 6% (late body), Grants more horizontal distance, but less vertical distance. This page explains how to successfully counterpick the champion lucina in the game Super Smash Bros. There are also general tips regarding character match ups and maps. This article is about Marth's appearance in Super Smash Bros. Lucina also began to earn more results as Mr E got 5th at EVO 2018 while defeating BestNess, Salem, MVD, and Shuton to qualify for top 8 before losing to CaptainZack and Nietono and continued to do very well with her such as getting 17th at Super Smash Con 2018, 25th at Shine 2018, 4th at Canada Cup 2018 and 17th at both GameTyrant Expo 2018 and DreamHack Atlanta 2018. While not remarkably powerful like Marth's sweetspotted forward tilt, it deals noticeably more knockback compared to his sourspotted forward tilt. For other uses, see Marth. Lucina also has difficulty dealing with aerial pressure: Dolphin Slash's linearity leaves her vulnerable to edgeguarding and gimping, while her lack of reliable anti-pressure options leaves her vulnerable to combos and juggling. Potential new Lucian main here. As a result, it is more consistent for spacing. Despite this, and due to Marth's more rewarding KO and spacing potentials, she must play more defensively in order to utilize her moveset to the fullest, namely her moves' consistently high knockback, though without getting the extra reward Marth obtains by doing so. Hot. These changes helped her mitigate some of the problems she initially had, although they were not sufficient enough in comparison to Marth's, who began developing a much more dedicated playerbase than her. As in SSB4, the primary difference between Lucina and Marth is that Lucina lacks a tipper, meaning that her sword attacks deal equal damage throughout her blade. Lucina, the daughter of Chrom, is a skilled swordswoman who travels back in time from a bleak future to save her family and the world from a horrible fate. An overhead thrust. Lucina is currently ranked 14th out of 55 on the tier list, placing her in the B tier. Embed. I am glad it helped both your 3DS and Wii U play! As time went on, however, game updates gradually improved Lucina, with the vast majority of her buffs being shared with Marth. : ) I am glad you found use for the guide! In . These results which were previously unspoken of for Lucina have not only been more impressive than a fair amount of the characters above her, but also Marth. Lucina and Mia from the Fire Emblem Heroes guide. I'm new here but I've read many guides, few were this useful and easy to read. Unlike Marth, she has no sweet spot for her blade. Forward smash's range makes it a good choice against opponents aiming their recoveries directly towards the edge, such as Little Mac and Falco, and down tilt's range and speed make it good at exploiting an opponent's 2 frame-long vulnerability when grabbing the edge. It also grants some horizontal movement, which is amplified when fully charged. Ultimate. Lastly, Lucina is slightly better at defending against close-ranged pressure, most notably against rushdown-oriented characters like Captain Falcon. Although Lucina does not have as many intricate sourspot combos or set-ups that Marth can utilize to set up his tippers, she gains more consistent damage off her own combos than Marth due to her lack of such sourspots. Join. Lucina is a strong willed and driven woman who is determined to alter the dark future she came from. Updates. Has a powerful sweetspot and grants very slight intangibility in the first few frames, which can easily cause stage-spikes under the right circumstances. An inward horizontal slash, followed by a spinning, outward horizontal slash. Due to this and with some people noting that Marth has not achieved that much success with out a secondary on top of him being significantly less consistent at killing as a character, some have said that Lucina is a superior character to Marth. It has no follow-up or KO potential due to its high ending lag and extremely low knockback scaling. These factors make it a useful anti-air option and damage racking tool. Her grounded attacks and aerial attacks' hitboxes were also increased to the point where, like Marth, her range now overreaches certain characters' ranges, such as Sheik's. Lucina is a returning fighter in Super Smash Bros. Although these buffs were still not enough to enable her to achieve significant results, even from her best players like C-Lu and Kogarasuma, they still improved her perception within the community. A lunging outward slash. User Info: DekuFireMage. Dolphin Slash has quick start-up; provides intangibility during its start-up; and is relatively strong upon coming out. Very thorough guide. Lucina performs a powerful stab that pierces through and breaks through shields. It is uncertain how many years she had with the Chrom of her timeline still living; she once described to the main-timeline Chrom how she and her timeline's Chrom had a close relationship where he often shared with … This includes itself; tilt attacks; down smash; forward aerial; or dash grab at low percentages, and forward smash at medium to high percentages. She's got all of her color swaps from SSB4 and lots of neat bodygroups. The first hit deals weak knockback and it unsafe on shield due to the move's duration. Lastly, Lucina is vulnerable to edgeguarding. Play. It can tech-chase, combo into a forward aerial against heavier characters at low percentages, or combo into. Wanted to share my most proud battle in ultimate after picking up the game about six months ago. It is for players of all sorts. Rotates her body to perform an upward slash behind herself. Heaves the opponent upward with her free hand. You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. These traits collectively grant Lucina a few advantages that help her set apart from Marth; in particular, her neutral game is overall safer because of the higher shieldstun on average her moves can inflict, which makes her moves safe on shield when spaced correctly. Lucina also has a poor grab game: each of her throws have meager damage outputs, while her only throws that do have utility (up throw for KOing and down throw for starting combos) are only effective at very high percentages and low percentages, respectively. T… A combination of sword swings, which can be influenced by directional inputs. The swings are easier to chain together, but only the side inputted swings can be used. However, it is very effective at launching the opponent off-stage due to its high base knockback. Initially a poorly regarded character like her ancestor, Lucina has been buffed significantly thanks to game updates. This makes Lucina slightly less threatening in the neutral game; attacking opponents do not have to space their approaches relative to the Parallel Falchion's blade the same way they would with Marth's Falchion, and defending opponents do not need to adjust their spacing to avoid being hit by a tipper. Well done. However, the biggest buffs Lucina received were indirect. This however, is highly debatable. This gives her a good height recovery though its angle is a bit limited so you have to be very close to the stage's edge to ensure that you'll be able to grab it. Dancing Blade can be used to punish sidesteps and boasts combo, mix-up, KO and even recovery potentials. As such, it is a fairly reliable KOing option. Ultimate. Lucina Lucina's Down Aerial spikes in the same way Marth's does. Alternatively, this ad may have just failed to load. She values her comrades deeply and has a sense of justice. View Comments. These improvements allowed Lucina's offense to flow more consistently than before, giving her a niche over Marth in certain matchups. Sonic - 3.9 Vote for tiers. She trades heavy power and range for more consistent spacing and damage racking abilities, as well as more consistent KO potential. A downward slash. Lastly, Counter is a counterattack with a 1.2× damage multiplier that can KO an opponent who uses a sufficiently strong attack. Even so, she is also heavily reliant on her double jump for mixing up her recovery, and she is in significant danger of being gimped if off-stage without it. I admire you, you did an excellent guide, has personally helped me a lot to improve my game, from 3d to now whit the wii u version , however, what do you think about the recent japanese tier list and why Lucina is bottom tier in this one ?. Hot New Top. Other than that a very good guide. Lucina's primary recovery move is her Dolhin Slash. However, Lucina continued to improve over time, and gained some other significant buffs in update 1.1.4, with some of them once again being shared with Marth. Also her shield breaker is like a strong aerial, so she does have that move. Likes. The finishing swing is one of three options: an upward slash with with KO potential at high percentages, but short range (tilting the control stick up); a downward slash with KO potential at high percentages near the edge (no control stick input or tilting the control stick forward); or a flurry of low-angled thrusts that deal the most amount of damage, but have the lowest amount of knockback (tilting the control stick down). As someone who uses lucina a lot, this did help me. This page was last edited on December 21, 2020, at 12:19. card. Thank you for the kind review! Like Mario and Pit, she has a low learning curve thanks to her straightforward playstyle, since she benefits from spacing at close range while also having several fast and reliably strong KOing options. Consistently powerful finishers, a solid recovery, and an excellent damage-racker in Dancing Blade eclipsed the kit of every other character. Artwork of Lucina in Fire Emblem 0 (Cipher) ... Mia and Lucina from the Fire Emblem Heroes guide. Has a stronger damage multiplier, activates faster, launches opponents backward and has an, Dashes at a blinding speed to perform an extremely powerful outward slash. Nice job. 13. No matter where you hit the enemy, you’ll do the same damage. You’ll unlock Lucario, Marth, Ryu, Ganondorf, and then Lucina. The Parallel Falchion's lack of a tipper hitbox is also a double-edged sword for Lucina. http://www.GameXplain.com Are you having trouble with the challenges in Super Smash Bros. Wii U that requires getting 8 KOs in Cruel Smash as Lucina? 13. Also a guy who plays yugioh. Fighters are in Full Roster order (Top left to bottom right). Oddly, its tip launches opponents at a different angle similarly to Marth's, despite the Parallel Falchion's lack of a tipper. Lucina also has minimal defense against juggling, as her aerials are ineffective at relieving pressure. By the end of Super Smash Bros. 4's metagame, Lucina found herself at the very top of our tier list. What NegaNixx said, Lucina's (and Marth's) offstage game is key to their success.As you might have gathered, Marth does it slightly better, but Lucina can still do it well. Reflects version 1.1.7 of the game. 3.325% (first hit/second forward hit), 4.275% (third forward/upward hits), 3.325% (third downward hit), 5.7% (last forward hit), 6.65% (last upward hit), 2% (last downward hits 1-4), 4.75% (last downward hit 5). When these traits are coupled with the Parallel Falchion's disjointed range, she possesses a reliable neutral game. From Ver. Custom moves are included, though not explored too in depth. Thanks for helping me! Though her attacks have quick start-up, many of them come with high ending and landing lag, and lack lingering hitboxes, making her attacks unsafe to use on shield up close despite their greater power. The first three swings also deal less damage. A good combo starter at low percentages and a viable KOing option at very high percentages. This is further compounded by Lucina's poor grab game: although her pummel is fairly quick, each of her throws have low damage outputs, while only two of them (up and down throws) have utility. The lack of a tipper is both a strength and weakness: while the lack of a tipper does make her combos and rushdowns more consistently damaging than Marth's, if Lucina does not successfully use one of her reliable KOing options, she must rely on scoring KOs with options that are vastly inferior compared to Marth's tippered attacks. In addition, its power makes it capable of breaking combos and even stage spike reckless edgeguard attempts. Super Smash Bros. 4 Lucina is currently placed in the S tier in Super Smash Bros. 4 and is considered the best character in the game (alongside Marth).Lucina possesses two specific tools that make her an … Another advantage that Lucina possesses is her consistent KO potential: unlike Marth, precise spacing is not required for all her moves to deal dependable knockback, whereas Marth's sourspotted attacks deal mediocre damage and knockback even at high percentages. As a result of these differences, Lucina has ultimately been viewed by many professionals as inferior to Marth. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. If timed correctly, a late hit can connect against grounded opponents just before landing, which can lead to aerial combos. On Smash Ball standby alongside Luigi on Coliseum. 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